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Mam laptopa ThinkPad Lenovo T60p - 32 bit. Aktualnie ma on 2x1 GB pamieci RAM. Na tylnej obudowie laptopa mam:
TYPE - 2008 - 87G.
Chcialem popracowac troche nad wirtualizacja ale to wymaga wiekszej ilosci RAM-u. Minimalnie 2 GB dla OS "gospodarza" i 2 GB dla OS "goscia"
To zdanie:
Note: Only 64-bit operating systems support more than 3GB of system memory (RAM). Intel Chipsets 945GM and 945PM do not support more than 3GB system memory (RAM), even when a 64-bit operating system is installed.
Recommended for memory expansion are 2 GB PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM 533 MHz SO DIMM or 256 MB, 512 MB, and 1 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM 667 MHz SO DIMM.
Z tej strony: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?LegacyDocID=MIGR-62722
Daje mi do myslenia, mam takie info odnosnie chipsetu:
lucas@lucas-ThinkPad-T60p ~ $ lspci -nn 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub [8086:27a0] (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express PCI Express Root Port [8086:27a1] (rev 03) 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:27d8] (rev 02) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 1 [8086:27d0] (rev 02) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 2 [8086:27d2] (rev 02) 00:1c.2 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 3 [8086:27d4] (rev 02) 00:1c.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 4 [8086:27d6] (rev 02) 00:1d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:27c8] (rev 02) 00:1d.1 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:27c9] (rev 02) 00:1d.2 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:27ca] (rev 02) 00:1d.3 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 [8086:27cb] (rev 02) 00:1d.7 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller [8086:27cc] (rev 02) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge [8086:2448] (rev e2) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge [8086:27b9] (rev 02) 00:1f.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller [8086:27df] (rev 02) 00:1f.2 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7-M Family) SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [8086:27c5] (rev 02) 00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family SMBus Controller [8086:27da] (rev 02) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M56GL [Mobility FireGL V5200] [1002:71c4] 02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller [8086:109a] 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection [8086:4227] (rev 02) 15:00.0 CardBus bridge [0607]: Texas Instruments PCI1510 PC card Cardbus Controller [104c:ac56] lucas@lucas-ThinkPad-T60p ~ $
Pytanie:
a/ - czy moj chipset moze pracowac z 4 GB RAM-u?
b/ - jakie polecenie w konsoli powie najwiecej o chipsecie?
c/ - jak sprawdzic "stan" albo "jakosc" zamontowanej pamieci RAM? Tylko "Memtest86" czy sa jakies polecenia konsolowe?
Chyba sam znalazlem odpowiedz:
To zdanie:
Uwaga: Za pomocą prezentowanych wyszukiwarek pamięci dedykowanych można również określić max ilość pamięci jaką obsługuje nasz laptop.
Na tej stronie: http://www.mobileparts.pl/?dobieranie-pamieci-ram,8
doprowadzilo mnie do wyniku, ze moge zamienic na 2x2GB - DDR2 667 MHz.
Zastanawiam sie tylko jezeli kosc pamieci bedzie miala inny zegar, to co ?
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b/ - jakie polecenie w konsoli powie najwiecej o chipsecie?
Prawdopodobnie takie:
su -c "hwinfo --bridge"
c/ - jak sprawdzic "stan" albo "jakosc" zamontowanej pamieci RAM? Tylko "Memtest86" czy sa jakies polecenia konsolowe?
Podaj wynik:
su -c "dmidecode -t memory"
Ostatnio edytowany przez marcin'82 (2013-03-28 18:50:43)
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@marcin'82
lucas@lucas-ThinkPad-T60p ~ $ su -c "hwinfo --bridge"
Password:
> hal.1: read hal dataprocess 4706: arguments to dbus_move_error() were incorrect, assertion "(dest) == NULL || !dbus_error_is_set ((dest))" failed in file ../../dbus/dbus-errors.c line 282.
This is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library.
libhal.c 3483 : Error unsubscribing to signals, error=The name org.freedesktop.Hal was not provided by any .service files
09: PCI 00.0: 0600 Host bridge
[Created at pci.318]
Unique ID: qLht.WFFjNbEmru0
SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:00.0
SysFS BusID: 0000:00:00.0
Hardware Class: bridge
Model: "Lenovo ThinkPad T60"
Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation"
Device: pci 0x27a0 "Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub"
SubVendor: pci 0x17aa "Lenovo"
SubDevice: pci 0x2015 "ThinkPad T60"
Revision: 0x03
Module Alias: "pci:v00008086d000027A0sv000017AAsd00002015bc06sc00i00"
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
10: PCI 01.0: 0604 PCI bridge (Normal decode)
[Created at pci.318]
Unique ID: vSkL.auMtoROVJ9A
SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0
SysFS BusID: 0000:00:01.0
Hardware Class: bridge
Model: "Intel Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express PCI Express Root Port"
Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation"
Device: pci 0x27a1 "Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express PCI Express Root Port"
SubVendor: pci 0x17aa "Lenovo"
SubDevice: pci 0x2014
Revision: 0x03
Driver: "pcieport"
IRQ: 40 (no events)
Module Alias: "pci:v00008086d000027A1sv000017AAsd00002014bc06sc04i00"
Driver Info #0:
Driver Status: shpchp is not active
Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe shpchp"
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
12: PCI 1c.0: 0604 PCI bridge (Normal decode)
[Created at pci.318]
Unique ID: z8Q3.lhbiXmvIKtB
SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.0
SysFS BusID: 0000:00:1c.0
Hardware Class: bridge
Model: "Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1"
Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation"
Device: pci 0x27d0 "82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1"
SubVendor: pci 0x17aa "Lenovo"
SubDevice: pci 0x2011
Revision: 0x02
Driver: "pcieport"
IRQ: 41 (no events)
Module Alias: "pci:v00008086d000027D0sv000017AAsd00002011bc06sc04i00"
Driver Info #0:
Driver Status: shpchp is not active
Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe shpchp"
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
13: PCI 1c.1: 0604 PCI bridge (Normal decode)
[Created at pci.318]
Unique ID: qTvu.nWUCVv8jNeC
SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.1
SysFS BusID: 0000:00:1c.1
Hardware Class: bridge
Model: "Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 2"
Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation"
Device: pci 0x27d2 "82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 2"
SubVendor: pci 0x17aa "Lenovo"
SubDevice: pci 0x2011
Revision: 0x02
Driver: "pcieport"
IRQ: 42 (no events)
Module Alias: "pci:v00008086d000027D2sv000017AAsd00002011bc06sc04i00"
Driver Info #0:
Driver Status: shpchp is not active
Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe shpchp"
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
14: PCI 1c.2: 0604 PCI bridge (Normal decode)
[Created at pci.318]
Unique ID: hoOk.pLNiS2O7RPD
SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.2
SysFS BusID: 0000:00:1c.2
Hardware Class: bridge
Model: "Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 3"
Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation"
Device: pci 0x27d4 "82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 3"
SubVendor: pci 0x17aa "Lenovo"
SubDevice: pci 0x2011
Revision: 0x02
Driver: "pcieport"
IRQ: 43 (no events)
Module Alias: "pci:v00008086d000027D4sv000017AAsd00002011bc06sc04i00"
Driver Info #0:
Driver Status: shpchp is not active
Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe shpchp"
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
15: PCI 1c.3: 0604 PCI bridge (Normal decode)
[Created at pci.318]
Unique ID: Z7uZ.rAGCQBdXUAE
SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3
SysFS BusID: 0000:00:1c.3
Hardware Class: bridge
Model: "Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 4"
Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation"
Device: pci 0x27d6 "82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 4"
SubVendor: pci 0x17aa "Lenovo"
SubDevice: pci 0x2011
Revision: 0x02
Driver: "pcieport"
IRQ: 44 (no events)
Module Alias: "pci:v00008086d000027D6sv000017AAsd00002011bc06sc04i00"
Driver Info #0:
Driver Status: shpchp is not active
Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe shpchp"
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
21: PCI 1e.0: 0604 PCI bridge (Subtractive decode)
[Created at pci.318]
Unique ID: 6NW+.FQWHJLSZD1C
SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1e.0
SysFS BusID: 0000:00:1e.0
Hardware Class: bridge
Model: "Intel 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge"
Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation"
Device: pci 0x2448 "82801 Mobile PCI Bridge"
SubVendor: pci 0x17aa "Lenovo"
SubDevice: pci 0x2013
Revision: 0xe2
Module Alias: "pci:v00008086d00002448sv000017AAsd00002013bc06sc04i01"
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
22: PCI 1f.0: 0601 ISA bridge
[Created at pci.318]
Unique ID: BUZT.DbsuOBqQ4r0
SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.0
SysFS BusID: 0000:00:1f.0
Hardware Class: bridge
Model: "Lenovo ThinkPad T60/R60 series"
Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation"
Device: pci 0x27b9 "82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge"
SubVendor: pci 0x17aa "Lenovo"
SubDevice: pci 0x2009 "ThinkPad T60/R60 series"
Revision: 0x02
Module Alias: "pci:v00008086d000027B9sv000017AAsd00002009bc06sc01i00"
Driver Info #0:
Driver Status: intel_rng is not active
Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe intel_rng"
Driver Info #1:
Driver Status: lpc_ich is active
Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe lpc_ich"
Driver Info #2:
Driver Status: leds_ss4200 is not active
Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe leds_ss4200"
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
29: PCI 1500.0: 0607 CardBus bridge
[Created at pci.318]
Unique ID: 4Ivu.QoLDkQcpy16
Parent ID: 6NW+.FQWHJLSZD1C
SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1e.0/0000:15:00.0
SysFS BusID: 0000:15:00.0
Hardware Class: bridge
Model: "Lenovo ThinkPad T60/R60 series"
Vendor: pci 0x104c "Texas Instruments"
Device: pci 0xac56 "PCI1510 PC card Cardbus Controller"
SubVendor: pci 0x17aa "Lenovo"
SubDevice: pci 0x2012 "ThinkPad T60/R60 series"
Driver: "yenta_cardbus"
Driver Modules: "yenta_socket"
Memory Range: 0xe4300000-0xe4300fff (rw,non-prefetchable)
IRQ: 16 (1 event)
Module Alias: "pci:v0000104Cd0000AC56sv000017AAsd00002012bc06sc07i00"
Driver Info #0:
Driver Status: yenta_socket is active
Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe yenta_socket"
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
Attached to: #21 (PCI bridge)
lucas@lucas-ThinkPad-T60p ~ $lucas@lucas-ThinkPad-T60p ~ $ su -c "dmidecode -t memory"
Password:
# dmidecode 2.11
SMBIOS 2.4 present.
Handle 0x0007, DMI type 5, 20 bytes
Memory Controller Information
Error Detecting Method: None
Error Correcting Capabilities:
None
Supported Interleave: One-way Interleave
Current Interleave: One-way Interleave
Maximum Memory Module Size: 2048 MB
Maximum Total Memory Size: 4096 MB
Supported Speeds:
Other
Supported Memory Types:
DIMM
SDRAM
Memory Module Voltage: 2.9 V
Associated Memory Slots: 2
0x0008
0x0009
Enabled Error Correcting Capabilities:
Unknown
Handle 0x0008, DMI type 6, 12 bytes
Memory Module Information
Socket Designation: DIMM Slot 1
Bank Connections: 0 3
Current Speed: Unknown
Type: DIMM SDRAM
Installed Size: 1024 MB (Double-bank Connection)
Enabled Size: 1024 MB (Double-bank Connection)
Error Status: OK
Handle 0x0009, DMI type 6, 12 bytes
Memory Module Information
Socket Designation: DIMM Slot 2
Bank Connections: 4 7
Current Speed: Unknown
Type: DIMM SDRAM
Installed Size: 1024 MB (Double-bank Connection)
Enabled Size: 1024 MB (Double-bank Connection)
Error Status: OK
Handle 0x0029, DMI type 16, 15 bytes
Physical Memory Array
Location: System Board Or Motherboard
Use: System Memory
Error Correction Type: None
Maximum Capacity: 2 GB
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Number Of Devices: 2
Handle 0x002A, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0029
Error Information Handle: No Error
Total Width: 64 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 1024 MB
Form Factor: SODIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMM 1
Bank Locator: Bank 0/1
Type: DDR2
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: Unknown
Manufacturer: Not Specified
Serial Number: Not Specified
Asset Tag: Not Specified
Part Number: Not Specified
Handle 0x002B, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0029
Error Information Handle: No Error
Total Width: 64 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 1024 MB
Form Factor: SODIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMM 2
Bank Locator: Bank 2/3
Type: DDR2
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: Unknown
Manufacturer: Not Specified
Serial Number: Not Specified
Asset Tag: Not Specified
Part Number: Not Specified
lucas@lucas-ThinkPad-T60p ~ $Jak to jest, komendy z konsoli mowia o 4 GB a ta strona: http://www.kingston.com/en/memory/search/Default.as … p;Model=35143 - o 3 GB. I badz tu czlowieku madry
Moje powyzsze wnioski sa chyba jednak bledne i moge max 3 GB RAM-u, poniewaz:
Zdanie:
Note: Only 64-bit operating systems support more than 3GB of system memory (RAM). Intel Chipsets 945GM and 945PM do not support more than 3GB system memory (RAM), even when a 64-bit operating system is installed.
ze strony: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?LegacyDocID=MIGR-62722
koresponduje z:
Intel Core Duo / Intel 945GM
ze strony: http://www.kingston.com/en/memory/search/Default.as … p;Model=35143
a konsola mowi ze:
00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML
Moj wniosek: mam chipset 945GM na ktorym nawet 64 bitowe systemy nie zobacza 4 GB RAM-u. Dobrze mysle?
Ale zamienic jedna kosc 1GB na 2GB aby uzyskac konfiguracje, 1x1GB + 1x2GB moge? Razem 3 GB. /troche malo na VT/
Chyba jednak nie moge 3 GB bo:
MODULES MUST BE ORDERED AND INSTALLED IN PAIRS for Dual Channel mode.
To w jakich okolicznosciach moge zastosowac 4GB jezeli sa tak sprzeczne informacje?
Ostatnio edytowany przez Novi-cjusz (2013-03-28 19:25:46)
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jeżeli chodzi o zegary kości pamięci możesz brać z powodzeniem również 800MHz poprostu będą wtedy pracować z częstotliwością 667.
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@Bitels.
Masz racje. Sam znalazlem takie sformulowanie ze jezeli zegary sa niezgodne to rowna do najwolniejszego.
Dziekuje.
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Nie bedzie DC jak dasz 1 + 2 GB, ale będzie działać w sumie wynika z tego że możesz wsadzić dwie kości po 2GB tyle że nie wszystko będzie dostępne.
Strona Kingstona nie podaje ile maksymalnie a jakie moduły możesz użyć istotna różnica.
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@qluk
troche to smieszne, bo moge wsadzic 2 kosci po 2 GB /tzn - wydac pieniadze/ a i tak nic z tego nie bede mial.
Dziekuje za odpowiedz.
Spokojnych i zdrowych Swiat.
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E tam minimalnie 2GB dla gospodarza i 2G dla gościa....
Ja mam 4G ( 2x2GB 800Mhz) i nie wykorzystuje tyle pamięci a więcej wykorzystuje procka. Pamięci dla więcej zasobozernych systemow (gości) daje max 1.5G a moj system (gospodarz) zżera 512MB-1G.
Wcześniej miałem 2G i tez sie pracowało 1G dla gościa...
Ostatnio edytowany przez Yampress (2013-03-31 20:05:03)
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@Yampress
Moge sie mylic, bo dopiero zaczynam poznawac wirtualizacje.
Jaka kompilacja "gospodarz" a "gosc" jest Twoim zdaniem optymalna?
Bylbym zapomnial, czy taki wpis:
MODULES MUST BE ORDERED AND INSTALLED IN PAIRS for Dual Channel mode.
oznacza w moim przypadku ze moge dac:
a/ do jednego slota 2GB a do drugiego 1 GB ?
b/ kosci w obydwu slotach musza byc identyczne?
c/ moge uzywac tylko jednego slota?
Ostatnio edytowany przez Novi-cjusz (2013-04-01 20:12:35)
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